Crank Only, Glow Plug indicator, Limp Mode, P0087

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  1. 92Estilo

    92Estilo New Member

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    Hi Everyone,

    Could you help me with my car?
    2011 Audi A3 TDI

    I bought the car from repo auction and the previous owner had put gasoline in the tank. So my friend which is not a diesel expert (but he works as a mechanic at Lexus dealership) replaced the HPFP, 2 glow plugs, 1 fuel injection and the fuel filter. The car only crank and does not start. When I put diesel spray on the intake then the car start. The car also has a p0087 code, glow plug lid on the cluster and can't pass 3000 rpm. If you have time please help.
    Thank you.
     
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  2. Keithuk

    Keithuk Super Moderator

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    VAG Error Code: 16471/000135/5231/2838

    EOBD II Error Code: P0087

    Fault Location:
    Fuel Rail/System Pressure - Too Low/Implausible Signal

    Possible Cause:
    Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL)(K83) active.
    Power Loss.

    Fuel pressure too low.
    Fuel supply pipe blockage.
    Fuel pressure sensor harness open circuit or shorted.
    Fuel pressure sensor harness electrical circuit poor connection.
    Blocked fuel filter.
    Visual Inspection of Hardware (Camshaft, Cam Follower, etc).
    Mechanical Deficiency of Hardware (worn or missing parts) .

    Possible Solutions:
    Check/Replace all faulty Wiring/Connector(s).
    Check Measuring Value Blocks (MVB) for Fuel Pressure.
    Fuel trim activity 0.90 - 1.15.
    Output value rail pressure controller > 2 MPa.
    Difference between target and actual pressure > -16.38 bar.
    Check for bent/squeezed Fuel Lines.
    Check Low Fuel Pressure System for Leaks.
    Check Fuel Filter & Filter in Fuel Pump.
    Check the Fuel Quantity supplied by the Fuel Pump (G6).
    Visual Inspection of Hardware (Camshaft, Cam Follower, etc).

    Special Notes:
    Petrol/Gasoline:
    When found in 2.0l TFSI:
    Check Fuel Pressure.
    Check Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) 2027458/01-11-19 (North American Region (NAR)), for an improved Fuel Pressure Sensor (G410).
    Check Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) 2015153/15-11-03 (North American Region (NAR)), for a worn Intake Cam Shaft (superseded Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) 15-10-02, 15-11-01 and 15-11-02).
    Check Technical Product Information (TPI) 2014143 (Rest of World (RoW)), for a worn Intake Camshaft.
    Check Technical Product Information (TPI) 2014909 (Rest of World (RoW)), for a worn Intake Camshaft. This Technical Product Information (TPI) does NOT list in the Audi A6 (4F) BPJ Engine even though it is effected as well, so check for a worn Intake Camshaft of these too!
    When found on 2009 Audi 3.2 FSI AVS Engines, if Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) 000022/P0016 is flagged, please see Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) 15-09-04.

    Diesel:
    When found on Common Rail TDI engines, please see Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) 01-10-11 (Technical Product Information (TPI) 2023624).
    When found on Audi Common Rail V6, V8 and V12 TDI engines, please see Technical Product Information (TPI) 2020693. After mechanical all repairs are made Fuel Pressure Regulation Valve (N276) may need to be adapted and the EDC may need to be flash updated on the Audi Dealer level.

    Tech Notes:
    There is a service bulletin for the following Volkswagen vehicles:
    Volkswagen Eos 2006-2007.
    Volkswagen GTI 2006-2007.
    Volkswagen Jetta 2005-2007.
    Volkswagen Passat 2006-2007.
    Volkswagen Passat Wagon 2006-2007.
    Volkswagen Factory Service Bulletin OBDII Code P0087

    When is the code detected?:
    The Engine Control Module (ECM) has determined that the fuel rail pressure is too low for a specific engine RPM.

    As taken from my new Free EOBD II Error Codes software
     
  3. 92Estilo

    92Estilo New Member

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    92Estilo New Member

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    Which injector # is that on the red circle?
     

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    Update:[​IMG]

    I think I bleed the air on Injector 1,3, and 4. I don't have a tool to reach Injector 2. I used VCDS #35 to run the fuel pump to push the air out of the injector. The car still does not start. I will update again when I buy the tool to open injector 2. What is the wrench size to open the Injector 2?
    I talked to a mobile mechanic, he said it might be the timing is off after my friend installed the belt.
    Thanks
     
  6. 92Estilo

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    I finally was able to loosen Injector #2. I notice when I loosen the injector line, only injector 4 has pressured. Diesel also came out from the other 3 injectors but just dripping.
     
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